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#1 Aazen

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 07:27 AM

You can't really profit using trade skills? Either that or I'm doing it wrong.  Was maxing out Chef and Weapon Smithing only good for leveling my alt? What the deuce?

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#2 Hawkeye

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 10:21 AM

I know you can make money off of cooking. But the money gain is nothing compared farming. But you can make those rare unindentified grey dies for some money. Also making weapons and salvaging them gets you money but farming is still the best way sadly.
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Posted 17 April 2013 - 11:48 AM

money off cooking is not really worth it considering the amount of farming you'd need to do to make anything worthwhile.

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#4 Heylo

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 12:38 PM

Aside from legendary stuff and the rare time I outfit an alt in crafted, as opposed to dungeon, armor, crafting is pretty useless. It is possible to make money from crafting lvl 80 rares and salvaging for ectos, but recently, it's been cheaper to purchase the rare weapons instead of crafting them unless you farmed all the mats

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#5 Circaetus

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 07:03 PM

Sorry but yes.  Chef + Weaponsmith = legendary zippo (dagger)
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Posted 17 April 2013 - 07:15 PM

View PostCircaetus, on 17 April 2013 - 07:03 PM, said:

Sorry but yes.  Chef + Weaponsmith = legendary zippo (dagger)
Teach me
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:13 PM

View PostHawkeye, on 17 April 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

Teach me

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#8 Hawkeye

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 02:14 PM

View PostCircaetus, on 18 April 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:



You ask too much of one man.
Buttttttttttttttttttttttttttt. ;_;
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#9 I Am A Papaya

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:15 AM

Crafting is a leveling strategy, not a wealth-building one.

In a game where there are no exclusive recipes, there will be no profit in crafting.  There is no way to circumvent this simple truth.  Materials have value because some people like to make their own stuff, and because they can be leveraged to speed leveling (for people who are into that kinda thing).

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 10:51 AM

You can make money crafting, but you have to be watching the market.

I have every tradeskill at 400 across my various 80s (except armorcrafting) and rather than immediately sell what I've farmed, I store it until I have enough mats to craft various things. Then I simply look at those that would net me a bigger profit than if I sold the materials separately.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:34 AM

View PostSebrent, on 24 April 2013 - 10:51 AM, said:

You can make money crafting, but you have to be watching the market.

I have every tradeskill at 400 across my various 80s (except armorcrafting) and rather than immediately sell what I've farmed, I store it until I have enough mats to craft various things. Then I simply look at those that would net me a bigger profit than if I sold the materials separately.

I am not this patient.

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#12 Aazen

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 03:32 PM

If I can cultivate on the wrun I will. But I have learned that farming in any form for more than 15 mins makes me loose interest in a game. I'm here for the adventure and potential epic story. Not to grind.  I'm married. I save all my grinding for the home life....

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#13 Aazen

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 03:33 PM

That was too much information, wasnt it?

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#14 Sebrent

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:11 AM

@Heylo: it just means I put it in the bank and forget about it until I feel like checking my spreadsheets. Lol @ your A Song of Fire & Ice (Game of Thrones) avatar.

@Aazen: married with 2 sons (7 and 3) so I hear you ... though I do farm Karka while I'm waiting for dungeon groups on gw2lfg.com. I've been making good use of gw2spidy. I actually pull all of their data to a google spreadsheet and extract the information I want.

I've also kept track of what has dropped from the various bags I've opened so I have approximate drop rates from bags.

One of my sheets combines that information with current prices and tells me how much bags are worth on a sell/buy now or sell/buy order basis.

Another sheet tells me if I can make any money using the Mystic Forge.

It sounds like work to some, but when you know how to code, it's very simple, doesn't take long, and then all I have to do is look for yellow boxes on my spreadsheets and that's where my profit comes from that day. It allows me to be lazy :-p

When I'm at work waiting on something and not on the forums, I'm often working on my spreadsheet.

#15 Heylo

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 06:12 PM

View PostSebrent, on 25 April 2013 - 11:11 AM, said:

@Heylo: it just means I put it in the bank and forget about it until I feel like checking my spreadsheets. Lol @ your A Song of Fire & Ice (Game of Thrones) avatar.

@Aazen: married with 2 sons (7 and 3) so I hear you ... though I do farm Karka while I'm waiting for dungeon groups on gw2lfg.com. I've been making good use of gw2spidy. I actually pull all of their data to a google spreadsheet and extract the information I want.

I've also kept track of what has dropped from the various bags I've opened so I have approximate drop rates from bags.

One of my sheets combines that information with current prices and tells me how much bags are worth on a sell/buy now or sell/buy order basis.

Another sheet tells me if I can make any money using the Mystic Forge.

It sounds like work to some, but when you know how to code, it's very simple, doesn't take long, and then all I have to do is look for yellow boxes on my spreadsheets and that's where my profit comes from that day. It allows me to be lazy :-p

When I'm at work waiting on something and not on the forums, I'm often working on my spreadsheet.

Thanks :3 I love it so it's now my icon for everything.
Also, I am so envious of your skills. I wish I hadn't taken two years off..maybe I'd know how to do some of that stuffs.

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#16 Turin.5243

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 07:49 PM

View PostSebrent, on 25 April 2013 - 11:11 AM, said:

@Heylo: it just means I put it in the bank and forget about it until I feel like checking my spreadsheets. Lol @ your A Song of Fire & Ice (Game of Thrones) avatar.

@Aazen: married with 2 sons (7 and 3) so I hear you ... though I do farm Karka while I'm waiting for dungeon groups on gw2lfg.com. I've been making good use of gw2spidy. I actually pull all of their data to a google spreadsheet and extract the information I want.

I am no formal training with code, and wouldnt ask for any of your time in these matter, but i am curious, do you use a google doc for your spreadsheet or some other software? the idea of having a doc harvest information from gw2spidy is novel to me and i am fascinated. I have been trying to just keep track of a few of my favorite items and it can be time consuming compared to the method you have described.




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I also love the Game of thrones avatar.

#17 Sebrent

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:07 PM

Yes, I'm just using a google doc as they have provided a very simple means by which I can pull the data from any computer I'm on without having to drag my code onto it.

They also have some nice guides on how to leverage their scripts with your database. gw2spidy also has some information on this.

#18 AVHero

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:10 PM

If Heylo pays you in cat gifs, can you set me up one, so I can be lazy in being lazy?

#19 Sebrent

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 03:07 PM

For some reason right now gw2spidy is rejecting pulls from the google spreadsheet ... I bet because someone is using hundreds/thousands of separate pull requests for one item at a time instead of a single batch ... he has to protect his servers from that garbage.

Once it's up and working again or I get something else set up, perhaps we could do an exchange of in-game gold for code to help you do better with the tradepost.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 09:53 AM

This "horrible truth" just started to look a little brighter




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