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[Insane Pancakez]

So if anyone in rekz/GH or any knowledgeable players who knows the builds for zerg stomping could make some what of a guide and pm me for each class you know I would LOVE you forever. I need trait points, trait skills, runes, utilities, weapons, sigils, and a quick job requirement of each and every class except rangers. Even if you only know one of the classes PLEASE PM me all of that info or make a guide about it on VS forums here http://vsecretz.shiv...m/forums/862683 Again please please help me with this I need the proper build for each class.

Only the proper zerg busting builds please, no roaming or 1v1 or any of that shananigans. I'll put  need beside each class if I still need the build, and Obtained beside it if someone already sent it to me.

Thanks!

Elementalist - Obtained
Engineer - Obtained
Guardian - Obtained
Warrior - Obtained
Thief - Obtained
Mesmer - Obtained
Necromancer - Obtained

[Hawkeye]

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[Seviryn]

Guides are dangerous since other people can read these forums.

Also because every guild/driver has their own playstyle, so a "build" for a large scale group doesn't always mesh for a given group/driver.

[Nidstev]

Seviryn, that doesn't mean that there aren't some basic guidelines for beginners that can be used, and then extrapolated on once people get a better understanding of role, play style and their chosen class.

Example:
0/10/0/30/30 is the only usable d/d ele build. (stupid statement)
0/10/0/30/30 is a good place for a new ele to start if they are learning d/d (giving a reasonable baseline starting point for exploration)

I totally understand Pancakez problem. I only have to worry about figuring out how to swap between 2 classes for this. He needs to be able to explain to some extent how this should work and give suggestions to people who are almost completely new to WvW/PvP play. The task is a bit daunting when just starting out, and it's not like we don't have the resources available to help the process.

As an aside: Neither VS nor GH is ever going to get to be as good as Rekz until we learn to figure out how to do the theorycrafting and learning on our own, but I don't think asking for a pair of training wheels is unreasonable.

[UltraEM]

lol no ranger. I find myself performing way better in WvW with my level 30 ranger than my 80 engineer and 45 Guardian.

I really hope VS achieves its goal of being able to field a competent zerg-busting team. Training with VS is intense and fun.

Say, Pancakez, I have a concern: VS will still have a roaming support group aside from the zerg-busting group, right? Since zerg-busting requires a lot of training and coordination for the team to be effective, I cannot hope to be a part of the group as I can only play on weekends, thus limiting the time I can commit to the game, while others train almost every day. I, and a few others, would be left behind in skill level and would end up as liabilities(i.e. rally-bait) to the tight-knit well-drilled group we hope to form.

[MaxBerlin]

i think pancake wants the builds in a PM not in this forum topic.

[Palerider]

MaxBerlin, on 18 June 2013 - 04:12 AM, said:

i think pancake wants the builds in a PM not in this forum topic.

Yes, DO NOT LIST BUILD INFO HERE. PM the Pancakez your builds and your newds.

[Insane Pancakez]

Alright! Someone has Pm'd me the correct Warrior build. Now please someone get me the others!

[Insane Pancakez]

UltraEM, on 18 June 2013 - 01:47 AM, said:

lol no ranger. I find myself performing way better in WvW with my level 30 ranger than my 80 engineer and 45 Guardian.

I really hope VS achieves its goal of being able to field a competent zerg-busting team. Training with VS is intense and fun.

Say, Pancakez, I have a concern: VS will still have a roaming support group aside from the zerg-busting group, right? Since zerg-busting requires a lot of training and coordination for the team to be effective, I cannot hope to be a part of the group as I can only play on weekends, thus limiting the time I can commit to the game, while others train almost every day. I, and a few others, would be left behind in skill level and would end up as liabilities(i.e. rally-bait) to the tight-knit well-drilled group we hope to form.

Yes we will! Soon hopefully we'll have grav leading our main forces, and i'll have a 15-20 man group that follow me seperately in a different teamspeak channel. Now i'm not saying you're going to see this next reset as this takes time, i'm still in desperate need watching out for some good leaders to help me lead the guild (At the moment I have 0) and I really still need more active WvW players who run with us and use TS.

Besides that, i'm really proud of my guild. The amount of them signing up on our VS forums, showing intrests in running WvW as a guild, all changing their builds to help us not because I ask them to but because they WANT to? I couldn't ask for better guild members. I didn't steal these guys from any major WvW guilds, I didn't recruit but about 10% of them that were guildless in WvW. I recruited about 300 of these members by myself in maps likes queensdale when they were new to the game, Cursed shores, PvE areas mainly. Now i'm turning them into machines. We've gotten a lot of compliments from some leaders of the bigger WvW guilds, they've been whispering me ETC and I thank you all for the encouragement! It helps and I tell my guildies every time. Started this guild to help Ehmry bay more in WvW, had a lot of negative feedback at first saying it's going to die, or never take off but look at us now. I'm not trying  to join in the ranks of "One of the big 3" guilds, i'm trying to raise a group of players that enjoy playing together, work together as a team, and really enjoy doing it. That's about it.


Thank you everyone who's helped me along the way. I really do appreciate it.

[SeñorHueso]

Hey you stole me from a major WvW Guild / PVE guild(Two different guilds) lol well my WvW Guild Unified Domination was only big in my head lol. It was the sister guild to my PVE since we hardly had any pvpers on and most seem to be bothered with WvW chat in guild.   It is all good you have taken the leg work out of it for me. Plus I did not have to upgrade server for vent.  Only thing I miss out on is doing website design.  Something about doing PHP / Uploading Data base programs and installing Emoticons and other features to websites makes me happy. I try and avoid doing the easy 1-2-3 bam here is a website.   Over all things have been great with in the guild and in WvW We have come  a long way with size and people starting to notice who we are.   The fact that half the guild hates Pancakes in RL must mean something if they sticking around this long in the guild / WvW... JK

[Insane Pancakez]

All we need now is a guideline for zerg busting thief's and we're good. I may go play around with mine and look at some of the traits and skills and kind of form our own.

[Palerider]

Insane Pancakez, on 19 June 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:

All we need now is a guideline for zerg busting thief's and we're good. I may go play around with mine and look at some of the traits and skills and kind of form our own.

Condi build with caltrops and dagger storm. Maybe trait venon share, another idea. I Love it when Squirrel is running his venom share setup. Hell one of each maybe pretty awesome start for a mid-line

[Bonny]

Ok .. now I'm curious ... Is there a role for a ranger in zerg busting?

[Palerider]

Bonny, on 19 June 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

Ok .. now I'm curious ... Is there a role for a ranger in zerg busting?

Not really. I know there are people working on builds but none as good as other classes.

[Bonny]

Palerider, on 19 June 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

Not really. I know there are people working on builds but none as good as other classes.

Always the bridesmaid ... never the bride.

[Palerider]

Bonny, on 19 June 2013 - 01:03 PM, said:

Always the bridesmaid ... never the bride.

Cheer up, in small groups Rangers are at the top of the food chain.

[Insane Pancakez]

If you want, I can make a ranger zerg busting guide. It's not going to be top of the line, may not have much damage BUT you will be one damn good support class granting your teamates regen, condi removal, and immobilizes.

[Bonny]

Insane Pancakez, on 19 June 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

If you want, I can make a ranger zerg busting guide. It's not going to be top of the line, may not have much damage BUT you will be one damn good support class granting your teamates regen, condi removal, and immobilizes.

I would appreciate the information

[Insane Pancakez]

Okay! I'm running a WvW event as soon as this patch is over, but yea i'll definately make is ASAP! I've been running a ranger since August as my ONLY class. And I drove for a while as a ranger, almost always did WvW so I know a few things. I'll get on it soon!

[Bonny]

Insane Pancakez, on 19 June 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Thank you!