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[LiveSpartan235]

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Why Are We Doing This?

Every system in Guild Wars 2 operates within an ecosystem that contains all the other systems in the game. It’s important to us as a company that players receive value for the time that they spend in the game and that we don’t overload players with an excess of long-term systems that are character-specific.

World XP was initially conceived of as a system that would provide depth to characters in WvW while also providing reasonably achievable goals that kept you interested in playing and earning ranks. That led us to the decision that World XP would be tied to the character that earned it in WvW. By tying the XP and ranks to the individual characters, we had a WvW system that closely mirrored our PvE XP.

When we initially designed this system, we envisioned a specific amount of abilities and lines for players to progress and unlock for their characters, to create builds and scenarios for their characters to use.
As we begin to roll out our new core horizontal progression system of continually-expanded skills and traits, we felt there was no longer a need to have a character-specific progression system unique to WvW. The skill and trait system will provide game-wide horizontal character progression for all players.

How Will it Work?

With all of this in mind, the system is receiving the following changes:

• All earned World XP on an account will be put into a single pool.
  
• The sum of those points will determine the world rank and World Ability Points available to each character on the account.
  
• World Ability Points can be allocated differently on each character; you are not creating a single, account-based, version of your characters.

With this change, we hope to still see that sense of uniqueness to different characters while providing much more value across all characters on an account.
Once the change is in, all World XP earned by each character on an account will be applied to the pool for that account. Rank up chests will be given to the character that earns the World XP that increments the account one world rank, much like daily achievement chests do currently. Retroactive rank up chests will be added to the bonus pool of any accounts that earn them via the World XP summing process.

Why isn’t it Live Right Now?

We will be building this change into the public test that [[we are currently holding/ will begin soon]] to test out the newest WvW map, the Edge of the Mists.

We want to get this change out to everyone in a timely manner, but it’s a complicated change that we want to test thoroughly before releasing. This system has a lot of interconnected parts, and we want to put it to use on a large scale to ensure that everything works as planned. The sheer number of people involved should allow us to test this change in-depth before putting it into the live game. We wanted to let you all know ahead of time because we wanted to give everyone as much advance notice of this change as we possibly could

Conclusion

This change is going to make WvW a friendlier place for alts and is going to make the WvW rank system even more useful. We hope you are as excited as we are for this change, and we can’t wait to see who will be the first player to rank 3,000!

[Fyre Red]

This is awesome. Best change to wvw since they introduced wxp in the first place.

[Aggro Master X]

I'm pretty confused on what they mean...do they mean that if you're rank 30, all your characters are rank 30, but the points are not account bound? If so, that's pretty cool, though it won't sway me from going all around on my characters.

[Gatita]

A well needed change in my honest opinion.

[Fyre Red]

The world xp will be pooled. So my understanding is that if you have 2 rank 30s,your world rank will be 52 after the patch (first 10 levels require 1k xp and every level after that requires 5k xp)

[Reisa]

Aggro Master X, on 28 November 2013 - 01:46 AM, said:

I'm pretty confused on what they mean...do they mean that if you're rank 30, all your characters are rank 30, but the points are not account bound? If so, that's pretty cool, though it won't sway me from going all around on my characters.

From my understanding, it means each WvW rank will add to a general pool of points.  Every character can then use those points to buy ranks--that only apply to that character.

For example, if across all characters you get to rank 115 and max a guard stack rank on one character, you will have used up all the points in your pool for that ONE character to max the rank, but not for any other.

[CriticKitten]

This is a vastly overdue change.  World XP was far too much work to grind out on multiple characters unless you had plenty of spare time to dedicate to it.  Being able to gain it account-wide is much more efficient.

[RazGerb]

Jeez, I wonder who will be rank 3,000 First, I've seen a few Stormbluff that are in the Late Gold Ranks already, now that IS dedication.
With all my character combined I will be around Rank 500, and that is still a long way.

[Porter]

Reisa, on 28 November 2013 - 10:44 AM, said:

From my understanding, it means each WvW rank will add to a general pool of points.  Every character can then use those points to buy ranks--that only apply to that character.

For example, if across all characters you get to rank 115 and max a guard stack rank on one character, you will have used up all the points in your pool for that ONE character to max the rank, but not for any other.

That is exactly what I am worried about.  It sound like I can just earn points on one character and apply them to another later.  It doesn't really come across as a game-changer in that scenario, IMO.  I might as well just play my Warrior and earn the WXP points along with the standard XP and skill points I would gain on her rather than running my Elementalist.  The rank chest that one will earn is going to be like if one currently completes dailies using more than one character.  It seems that part is already limited/changed, but without an explicit ability to re-trait from the onset, it is just going to be a repackaged soul bound system which will lead to more player complaints instead of player satisfaction.

[Reisa]

Porter, on 28 November 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

That is exactly what I am worried about.  It sound like I can just earn points on one character and apply them to another later.  It doesn't really come across as a game-changer in that scenario, IMO.  I might as well just play my Warrior and earn the WXP points along with the standard XP and skill points I would gain on her rather than running my Elementalist.  The rank chest that one will earn is going to be like if one currently completes dailies using more than one character.  It seems that part is already limited/changed, but without an explicit ability to re-trait from the onset, it is just going to be a repackaged soul bound system which will lead to more player complaints instead of player satisfaction.

I dunno, I like the idea of trait points for characters I don't or won't use anymore going to something else.

For example, I wouldn't really care about guard stacks on a roamer character, but I'd more than appreciate being able to put it on a zerg-purpose character or something.

[henez RS]

I'm glad that I can get more powa on my kill shots with guard tree on my warrior

[Habitax]

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  The sum of those points will determine the world rank and World Ability Points available to each character on the account.

Key words "to each"

I read this as each character gets access to the same total amount of WXP. Example: Account World Rank 200 means that 200 total points can be applied to each character in different areas if so desired. Account:  Necro gets 200 points to spend, Mesmer gets 200 points to spend, Warrior 200 points ...etc

To me, it doesn't seem like it would be worth the coding/testing effort needed by ANET to justify re-distributing WXP to a pool only to be used by a single character if so desired. Maybe I am wrong, I hope not.

[Sanji]

Anet just come out with it already pretty plz!

[UltraEM]

No complaints here, except for the worries others have expressed earlier. But all-in-all, this is a good thing.

[Crosius]

Lets just hope they bring it out very soon! I'm itching to have all my characters ranks combined. I'm very excited to see what total rank I actually get

[Sanji]

haha yeah am sure a lot are...I want to start roaming on my thief...and ele more soon is my reason.

[Applette]

It's insane how long this is taking ANet to implement.

[Crosius]

Dont get me started.

[Sanji]

haha

[Sanji]

From dulfy.net: All spent World Ability Points will be refunded to all characters. finally some movement on this cant confirm in game yet not on:)