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#1 Siiddhartha

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:49 AM

So here I am, a level 80 Guardian (been that way for a few weeks now) and I still have no idea what "Cursed Shore Grinding" (CSG) is or any other way to make more money than the 3g I have now.  This is not an exaggeration, I'm terrible at making money.  I've done some reading, and in principle I understand that CSG involves staying in Cursed Shore and doing events and killing Risen, but I swear to God I never get anything above blue off of a Risen.  Is the idea to kill everything, hope you get rares, toss those in the forge, and pray you get an exotic to sell?  Really?  I see people say things like "Did some CSG and I make about 3g an hour." Wut?  What am I doing wrong?  I don't own any MF gear because Im still trying to replace some blues and greens, so how do people get from point A to point B?  Seriously, please help me.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:57 AM

View PostJhon Silence, on 02 November 2012 - 11:49 AM, said:

So here I am, a level 80 Guardian (been that way for a few weeks now) and I still have no idea what "Cursed Shore Grinding" (CSG) is or any other way to make more money than the 3g I have now.  This is not an exaggeration, I'm terrible at making money.  I've done some reading, and in principle I understand that CSG involves staying in Cursed Shore and doing events and killing Risen, but I swear to God I never get anything above blue off of a Risen.  Is the idea to kill everything, hope you get rares, toss those in the forge, and pray you get an exotic to sell?  Really?  I see people say things like "Did some CSG and I make about 3g an hour." Wut?  What am I doing wrong?  I don't own any MF gear because Im still trying to replace some blues and greens, so how do people get from point A to point B?  Seriously, please help me.

I would like to know as well. I ran cursed shore for awhile and maybe made like 1g.........what am I doing wrong??

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:04 PM

I've been interested in this as well. I've been thinking of gathering a Magic find armor set to help my chances through that area but afraid it might handicap my overall survivability. It's pretty tough as it is in some areas of Cursed shore.
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:05 PM

View PostTechni Color, on 02 November 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

I've been interested in this as well. I've been thinking of gathering a Magic find armor set to help my chances through that area but afraid it might handicap my overall survivability. It's pretty tough as it is in some areas of Cursed shore.

I'm aiming for the same thing. I think the idea behind the magic find set is that you are with at least a few other people which will up your chances of survival.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:29 PM

Hi guys. First thing you want to do is to just grab a full rare MF set for about 1 gold or less.

Then get yourselves set up with runes of Pirate on them. Also you should buy some masterwork MF accessories unless you want to drop a lot more silver for rare ones. ADDITIONALLY grab you some MF food. I use peach tarts for about 20 copper each. Omnomberry bars are a good alternative if you want to drop more cash on them.

Step 1:
Go to Curshed Shore and head to Pentinent and Shelter Waypoint and wait for events there.

Step 2:
Find a farming group. Groups killing the mobs with you will increase your overall loot amounts. Trust me.

Step 3:
Farm the events! Pentinent has 3 spawn points for the groups of massive risen. Shelter is a bit easier to farm. I prefer the right side of the camp with the zombies, as usually lots come up in huge groups. (However, if there is not many people there, you can sit in the center of the camp and tag mobs from both sides of the camp as they come in!) The mobs will be dropping 1-2 rares per event, 3-5 greens per event, and 4-5 blues per event on average for my usual experiences.

Step 4:
So now you have all this loot...what do you do with it?

This is the way I do it (Some may disagree and do it other ways), and it usually nets around 2-3 good gold per hour.

-Get a basic salvage it, and salvage all METAL whites and CLOTH whites. VENDOR leather whites as 95% of the time you will make less money from salvaging the leather whites.

-Vendor ALL blues.

-Vendor ALL greens.

-SELL all rares! Note: Some people will say salvage, but I would not. Ectos will sell for the same amount as a rare and it's not even guarenteed to get an ecto (Using Mystic Salvage kits or the rare vendor kits).

Tip : Look at the lowest seller when listing your rare. Look at the highest buyer. DO NOT sell/list a rare on the TP for less than 13 silver  unless the lowest seller is around that. Typically, the lowest sellers will be around 15s or something and the highest buyer will be like 10 silver. In these cases, I would list the rare for about 13 - 13.5 silver. It will sell!

NOTE AGAIN: You will hit DR (Diminishing Returns) eventually! In this case, your average loot will go down and so will your gold per hour. You may want to take a break for an hour or two, or go do something else while it resets. From my experiences, noticeable DR happens after about 1 hour of farming! You want to keep farming? Sure, go ahead! But your gold per hour will most likely be going down to 1 - 2 gold per hour or so, compared to the normal 2 - 3 gold per hour.

Step 5:
Orch farming. One trip of orichalcum farming will net me around 1-1.5 gold. That's a lot! Check out the thread in general discussion here for locations and maps of the locations. I do my orichalcum node runs every morning at the same time and they're reset by then.

Also, http://michadia.imgur.com/ will have updated maps for orch locations here on Ehmry bay typically. He also usually posts them in the thread in general discussion.


I hope this guide helped you guys! Took me about 30 minutes to type up :).
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:29 PM

View PostHeylo, on 02 November 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

I'm aiming for the same thing. I think the idea behind the magic find set is that you are with at least a few other people which will up your chances of survival.

The three of us here can test this out and see how we fare. I volunteer jhon as meat shield so I can take popshots from a distance.


Another thing i was considering if the ratio of blues to better stuff is high, we can try using the forge to increase our profits.
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:33 PM

View PostThe Ugly Ducky, on 02 November 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

I hope this guide helped you guys! Took me about 30 minutes to type up :).

Thank you for this!! I will definitely be putting this into practice over the next few days.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:36 PM

View PostThe Ugly Ducky, on 02 November 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

I hope this guide helped you guys! Took me about 30 minutes to type up :).

Your generosity is too kind, nothing ugly about it :) ty I will be trying this out as well.
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 04:05 AM

In my time away from wvw I farm in the south western corner of the Cursed Shore map. There, you will find the temple of Grenth, and events leading up to it when it is under attack.
I personally don't bother wearing magic find armor. Instead, I use magic find foods.
Anyway, in that little area of the map you will often find people farming "the cannon event". That is where a group of npc's march over to a sight outside the entrance to the temple. They will stop, and soon enough the event will be to defend the group of npc's while they set up their cannon. If you just pause and not defend them, they will soon die from the waves of undead. Once that krewe is dead, it is very important that no one rez's them. As long as they remain dead, the waves of undead will keep generating. The mobs that appear will be much easier to kill than the typical enemies you face in the cursed shore because they will have much less health. Fortunately, they still drop the same loot. People also often post guild magic find flags there. As long as no one rez's the dead krewe members then you can farm that event for hours.
If you end up with someone that does manage to kill all of that fun by rezing them, then you can still farm the mobs in the travel event leading to the temple, and once you get to the contested temple, there's still undead, ice golems and shades that spawn aaaaalll over inside the temple. Beware though, the shades inflict stacks of an inextirpable condition that can easily kill you. It can only be removed by waiting for it to go away.

I also agree with Ugly Ducky on things to sell, all except for rare items. I'm the type that salvages and gambles. I would collect your rare and exotic items that you've looted and record potential prices on them if you had sold them on the trading post. I would also compare those prices to the present value of ectoplasm.
When you salvage rare and exotic items with high quality salvage kits, you have a good chance of getting anywhere between 0-4 ectos, plus any sigils, rare materials and runes they have.
So determine whether or not it's a good enough gamble to salvage a rare/exotic item to get more money. Analyzing the difference in selling price of the items and selling price of one or two potential ectos. If the item is lower than the value of just one ecto then I'd probably salvage it.
Hopefully that makes sense... If it doesn't, just let me know and I can just show you where to go and what to do

I salvage and gamble it without a lot of fear pretty much because I know I can just go back and farm the event more. I mean my inventory gets full fairly rapidly when doing the cannon event.

Another thing I suggest is aoe damage... As much as you can bring to the table. The more enemies you hit, the more odds you have of getting a drop. Especially with how squishy those mobs are.
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 09:57 AM

I'll second what Adamas says here.  That and running along the coastline on the west is mainly what I do to farm.  I make a gold to a gold and a half every 30 mins or so.

Of course, fractals are darn good money-makers now that they are up and running.  Dungeons (COF/AC) are even better.  But those assume that you have a group (gw2lfg.com is your friend).
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 11:35 AM

Agreed about gw2lfg, finding a group for anything is really quick. The quality of the pugs seems a bit higher than what you would normally get from map chat too.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 01:20 PM

Thread reminds me of what an absolute noob Jhon is

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:12 PM

Anyone know if people are selling legendaries through buy orders at a price that you could re-sell for a decent profit?

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:03 AM

View PostOctavian, on 15 January 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

Anyone know if people are selling legendaries through buy orders at a price that you could re-sell for a decent profit?
I highly doubt it, the gap between the buy orders and the sell listings would have to be HUGE to make a profit (15% difference).

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:23 PM

I will have to go look at that cannon event again.  I did that once and my biggest issue was filling my bags too fast :-)   I thought it was bugged now with the let the krewe die explanation it makes sense.  I am forever poor as I seem to be the only one who struggles to make money off the TP lol

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:33 PM

View PostDirewulff, on 17 January 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

I will have to go look at that cannon event again.  I did that once and my biggest issue was filling my bags too fast :-)   I thought it was bugged now with the let the krewe die explanation it makes sense.  I am forever poor as I seem to be the only one who struggles to make money off the TP lol

I try to make money off the TP but I get bored after like...3 seconds. I leave that to Derp(Remoirs). While he does that, I go off and kill things.

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