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#21 Chokladkakan

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:02 AM

I am somewhat of a tablet aficionado, so do be prepared for somewhat of a read.

As a rule Wacom is the brand to side with. They're generally more expensive but also the ones that have been in the business the longest. They know what they are doing and their tablets are exceptional, both in build quality, software, drivers and ergonomics.

When it comes to prices you can expect to pay anything from fifty dollars to several thousand, depending on what you want in terms of sizes, pressure sensitivity, pen functionalities and built-in monitors. The fifty dollar variation would be a so-called Bamboo, which'll serve you more than well unless you're some sort of professional artist.

The current line of Bamboos are an absolute treat to use (or the last generation, rather, as per the edit. I can't speak for the most current ones). They're well laid out, have a much more comfortable pen than their predecessors (to my mind, anyway) and are entirely ambidextrous! They're pretty, too, should that be of any particular significance. My only real gripe is a little shining light on it indicating it's powered, but that's mostly a quirk of my own: I don't like things that light up without me asking them to.

Short of jumping from the fifty dollar model to one for a few hundred there aren't too many options; the only real variation is that you may pay a little more to get a tablet that also does multi-touch in the same way telephones do nowadays. I have one of those, called Bamboo Pen & Touch, and while it's quite pleasant to be able to pan and zoom by pinching your fingers or sweep to switch applications and so forth it isn't really useful--I mostly use it to scroll with the two finger sweep or navigate when I've misplaced my pen. It's worth noting that I've used a pen for many years and I may well be biased towards it, but it is worth keeping in mind.

You might also find that there's a 'Fun' version of the Bamboo. The difference between this and the ordinary Bamboo is some included software and the colour of the tablet--there's nothing of inherent value unless you're interested in the programmes.

Edit: (Actually, scratch that. It appears they've rebranded in the few months since I got my new tablet. The grey ones are now called Capture and Create; the same premise stands, however, with the caveat of Create being inflated in price and being larger. If you can get a hold of last generation's models you'd probably get a fine deal; it seems their new entry level models are a little lacklustre compared to what was previously on offer--for example it seems the dark versions no longer have quick buttons. It also seems the cheap bastards have taken the eraser off of the pens for the cheaper models, something almost all available units had before. Information and model numbers on the (to me) more interesting generation of products are here, if need be.)

Finally you must decide what size of tablet you want. This is harder and largely personal: I am content with small tablets (they're cheaper, too!), whereas some must have huge ones to be able to feel comfortable with it. The best advice I can give is to grab yourself a pen and paper and doodle a bit. If you find you uses longer, sweeping motions with the pen you'll probably prefer a larger tablet, whereas if you express yourself with shorter strokes the small one will do you just fine.

Even though the smaller tablets are pretty bloody tiny in comparison the precision of the pen is more than enough for fine manoeuvring, much more so than an ordinary mouse once you're OK with the method, so you needn't necessarily worry about such things. It is also worth noting that the small and medium tablets offered by Wacom nowadays use similar physical housings, the small tablet just has a smaller area in which one may actually use the pen. To me this makes the design of the smaller one superior, because it offers a large and comfortable margin around the tablet to have rest your wrist on as you use it.

On a cursory note I discourage the wireless upgrade kit Wacom sells for their Bamboos. The battery time of the thing is shoddy at best and you'll probably find yourself using it with the charging cable installed most of the time if you use the tablet at any sort of regular interval.

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#22 infernalpume

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:56 AM

I always hear sai when people ask about programs, is it any good? i use sketchdesk with a tablet, which i like alot, but doesnt have many tools...
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#23 Tawa

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:47 PM

... Pretty much everything that Chokla said. Please double read the features on every Bamboo model because they made it hella confusing now.

I use a first generation Bamboo Fun tablet that has all the original bells and whistles. Pretty cheap thing and only 6"x4" but the beauty about drawing on a tablet vs paper is that you can zoom in an image so your strokes will be slightly different than drawing on paper. I recommend 6"x4" or the next size up to start with. No need to get a huge ass thing before you know what's your thing. The next model up from Bamboo is Wacom's Intuos. It pretty much just has twice as many levels of sensitivity but after using a friend's tablet, I didn't notice a difference. It's all in your own skill, not a tablet's.


View Postinfernalpume, on 04 January 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

I always hear sai when people ask about programs, is it any good? i use sketchdesk with a tablet, which i like alot, but doesnt have many tools...

Sai is fuckin' amaaaaazing. The pen tool is super duper crisp, crisper than any of the settings you can get on photoshop. You can stick with the default tools or tweak the settings around or just make your own brushes with no huge headaches. For my latest drawings, I've been using a custom brush in Sai. There's just no shape or text tools.

Plus it doesn't hog much computer memory! I'm lookin' at you, Photoshop.

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#24 Chokladkakan

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:57 PM

View PostTawa, on 04 January 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

The next model up from Bamboo is Wacom's Intuos. It pretty much just has twice as many levels of sensitivity but after using a friend's tablet, I didn't notice a difference. It's all in your own skill, not a tablet's.

Two things the Intous line has going for it that are absolutely bloody marvellous are application specific settings (which I imagine they refrained from including in the cheaper bundles just to spite me) and tilt sensitivity. The latter might seem insignificant, but with properly configured settings it's terrific. That's not to say that it's worth double the price, but it's pretty darn stellar.

#25 Tawa

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:15 PM

View PostChokladkakan, on 04 January 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:

Two things the Intous line has going for it that are absolutely bloody marvellous are application specific settings (which I imagine they refrained from including in the cheaper bundles just to spite me) and tilt sensitivity. The latter might seem insignificant, but with properly configured settings it's terrific. That's not to say that it's worth double the price, but it's pretty darn stellar.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised that they just want you to spend more money! Ahh, i forgot all about the tilt setting since I... can't use it on my Bamboo. I wonder if any artists actually use the tilt when drawing? I have yet to meet one who does.

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#26 infernalpume

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:28 PM

Skapper before her accident http://db.tt/8SxowHAQ
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#27 Reina Takayama

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:40 PM

Touch and I craft levelled two asura ele to level 80 just few days ago. Quick drawing haha they don't look that asuran i know lol. Anyway, well, Touch is quitting so this is sort of a sad little picture capturing a frozen memory in time


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#28 Tawa

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:39 PM

Awww, so sad!

But it's still a very cute picture. Don't worry about it not looking perfect, giant ears automatically make everything asuran!

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#29 Tawa

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:44 AM

Just some rough sketches of some expression practice on Buixx. One of these days, I'm just gonna spend my time only drawing his ears moving all around like a dog until I get them riiiiight!

Also still trying to figure out what kind of earrings to put in those elephant ears.

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#30 Tawa

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:47 AM

View Postinfernalpume, on 10 January 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

<img%20style= skapper before her accident

idk if you've noticed or not, but some image urls are coming out broken in the forums.

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#31 infernalpume

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 08:41 AM

View PostTawa, on 14 January 2013 - 06:47 AM, said:

idk if you've noticed or not, but some image urls are coming out broken in the forums.

yes. i do. i neither know why or how to delete or fix
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#32 Thuley

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:46 AM

View Postinfernalpume, on 14 January 2013 - 08:41 AM, said:

yes. i do. i neither know why or how to delete or fix

Could you reply to this post please inserted image URLs broken?
then we can get to the bottom of how this is happening and maybe fix it.

#33 Chowder

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:45 AM

Sketching my thief for a desktop wallpaper... will be painting it in a couple of days :)

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#34 Tawa

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 06:26 AM

Very nice!!

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#35 Rill Soji

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:59 PM

I blame this thread for pushing me over the edge to buy a wacom. :P

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#36 Mephala

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:50 PM

View Postgan blackhorn, on 15 January 2013 - 01:45 AM, said:

Sketching my thief for a desktop wallpaper... will be painting it in a couple of days :)

Do you do commissions? D:

#37 infernalpume

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:23 PM

View PostRill Soji, on 17 January 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

I blame this thread for pushing me over the edge to buy a wacom. :P

Got one of these: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16823100093

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#38 infernalpume

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:37 PM

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FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT!


this is skapper before her apccident. Cute lil thang ent she?
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 11:51 PM

View Postinfernalpume, on 17 January 2013 - 10:37 PM, said:

Attachment moar skapper1.jpg

FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT!


this is skapper before her apccident. Cute lil thang ent she?

Oh man, she is punky!

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#40 Rill Soji

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 04:07 PM

First dabbling with the wacom. Liking it a lot!

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