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#1 Cynical

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:05 AM

Well finally finished my legendary crafted Twilight I believe server second Danger Zone I believe is server first Twilight.

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Uploading video now incase anyone is interested how the effects are on a Mesmer.  



So based on my experience crafting a Legendary from what I read it is pretty much as people have said.

The precursor is a really small part of the process.  I had to complete map and grind the karma when I became focused on making a legendary many people already have map done.  So it was kind of backwards in my case than most.  

-If i can share anything for anyone attempting it would be.  Grind cursed it sucks kind of but honestly I met alot of cool people that are on here out there before I even knew about this site.  

-Most are there for the same thing and you can get some good info and pick up any tips.  I know I was asking Dissya who is world first Frost Fang maker who is on our server.   I got some good info from them for grinding the events and karma.  I met khalessi out there and welley and a few others that are working on the same thing so it can be kind of fun out there if your sociable and it helps pass the time.


-For the process if I could do it again I would have tried 10 recipe.  Zygen and a few others I know had good success with 10 recipe.  I did 1 attempted 10  times and failed.  

-301 shards all the way down to 39 for my 77 clovers total karma needed to be farmed was 1.2 mil

-10 recipe yields more T6 mats which help when creating your gifts so if you hit a bad streak it still helps toward the overall goal so I think 10 is actually better.  

-Precursor I got lucky about 2 days ago and got the Juggernaught precursor which I sold on TP then bought Dusk with that money but I was already working on Bolt but bolt had to go back seat to Twilight.  They pretty much use the same setup outside of the Gift of darkness its the same.

-The Mystic Forge can make you money.  It is still a gamble yes but so far from all the research that has been done throwing in 76-80 rares your exotic drop rate is 20% this is coming from people that have thrown thousands of rares in the forge.  Throw in forge and resell any exotics you get they sell quick even the pearl carver 1's and are all over 1g a piece except for the water weapons. Sometimes you hit on a good named one thats selling for over 10g and you made your money back. I was just making random ones in the forge and got the Colossus.

-Use same type to get back same type so 4 hammers = 1 hammer you get back always.  MF% doesnt effect the MF confirmed by Anet.

-Run cursed in MF gear vendor pretty much anything you dont need for the legendary. Except keep your rares salvage if they cost less than the price of ectos.  Sell on Tp if they cost more than ectos' (after the 15% sales tax)

I am glad it is finish though it is a grind I can't even deny it sometime enjoyable sometimes not.  Now I can help others finish their legendaries as I have met a few others that are close (kahlessi, welley, a few others)  So i guess this can be Ehmry Bays Legendary thread for info, questions, pics videos.

useful guru thread

http://www.guildwars...e/page__st__660

Also I can confirm 100% you can change the Sigil on the Precursor and Still craft the legendary.  I tried to take a screen shot when I put in forge but the overlay popup didnt show in screen shot strange. I had bloodlust on dusk when I put it in forge.

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#2 Heylo

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:11 AM

Congratulations!!! I want the Dreamer for my ranger and either Twilight or the staff for my mesmer. Everyone else gets a backseat...
How long do you think this took you? I haven't even really started working on it except for working towards map completion. I don't have any use for karma at this point, so I'll just start saving it up and grinding cursed shore once I finish map completion I guess.

once again, Congratulations!!!! I'd love to see the video if you put it anywhere....people complain about how it looks on a mes, but no one ever puts up a video! I almost don't care if we don't get all the awesome effects...the sword looks awesome just in general.

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#3 Cynical

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:20 AM

View PostHeylo, on 02 November 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:

Congratulations!!! I want the Dreamer for my ranger and either Twilight or the staff for my mesmer. Everyone else gets a backseat...
How long do you think this took you? I haven't even really started working on it except for working towards map completion. I don't have any use for karma at this point, so I'll just start saving it up and grinding cursed shore once I finish map completion I guess.

once again, Congratulations!!!! I'd love to see the video if you put it anywhere....people complain about how it looks on a mes, but no one ever puts up a video! I almost don't care if we don't get all the awesome effects...the sword looks awesome just in general.

Thanks much appreciated.  

Well pretty much everything you do kind of goes toward it really. I would say map took me a while started focusing on it with only 33%.  It can get boring trying to get through it but it was a nice break from cursed shore.  

Karma took about 2 weeks I started with 200k.  Really my biggest obstacle with karma was baltazaar temple finding a open 1 i transferred to magumma to get in balth temple.  I would say all together the process starts when you first pop the game in.  Its been about almost a month ish process.  

My cycle was karma -> map completion  which kind sucked because I was low on skill points so I would have to stop karma farming to go hunt points on the map which did help having some stuff done when I started focusing on the map.
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#4 Kenny Loggins

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:27 AM

Danger here, congrats on your Legendary again! Now when are you crafting Bolt? :D

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:32 AM

GRATSSS HOLY COW I WANT SUNRISE FOR MY MESMER XD but idk I find legendaries too flashy for my chars and I'm lazy sooo... while I will be hyped about it I don't think I'll do it myself xD

Thanks for the info tho maybe one day I'll be working on it. I have to read thru the details carefully soon

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:33 AM

View PostReina Takayama, on 02 November 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

GRATSSS HOLY COW I WANT SUNRISE FOR MY MESMER XD but idk I find legendaries too flashy for my chars and I'm lazy sooo... while I will be hyped about it I don't think I'll do it myself xD

Thanks for the info tho maybe one day I'll be working on it. I have to read thru the details carefully soon

I am also lazy, so it might take me awhile but it's good to have something to work towards! I need to have a goal in order to keep coming back to the game for the most part.

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#7 Kyra Knightwind

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:39 AM

That looks sick!  Way to go Cynical.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:54 AM

View PostKenny Loggins, on 02 November 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

Danger here, congrats on your Legendary again! Now when are you crafting Bolt? :D

A while lol.  I was talking to Dissya first day I met him and I agree the karma burn out is rough.  The thought of going back out there on cursed shore trying to tell the new people to pull broodmother in the circle and telling the rangers to put their pets on passive isn't really appealing at the moment :(
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:12 PM

Thanks for the insight on your experience. It will be a long while before I'm ready to do the grind myself but its nice to know there are tons of helpful people out there.

-Congrats from a very jealous Necro.
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:40 PM

Grats, Cynical! I'm getting close to having all the collectible stuff for The Flame Seeker Prophecies. Only things holding me back are onyx lodestones, icy runestones, and the precursor. Basically all the crap that costs gold. Thinking about throwing all the 76-80 rares I get into the forge from now on. Previously I was salvaging them.
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 02:15 PM

Congratulations!  So very awesome! ;)

View PostCynical, on 02 November 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

Karma took about 2 weeks I started with 200k.  Really my biggest obstacle with karma was baltazaar temple finding a open 1 i transferred to magumma to get in balth temple.  I would say all together the process starts when you first pop the game in.  Its been about almost a month ish process.

So a month-ish at how many hours per day?

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 02:24 PM

Added video sorry for quality its been a while since I did a video so forgot good setting camera does some weird funky moving thing lol
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#13 Cynical

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 02:25 PM

View PostThuley, on 02 November 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:

Congratulations!  So very awesome! ;)



So a month-ish at how many hours per day?

currently 762 hours played.
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#14 Thuley

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 02:29 PM

View PostCynical, on 02 November 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

currently 762 hours played.

Yeah that's just crazy! ;)
Let's think about that in terms of opportunity cost.  Let's assume a minimum wage of $7.25 which means it "cost" you $5524.5 worth of pre-tax effort to get that thing.  The numbers are more dramatic if your wage is like $30 or some such.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 02:40 PM

View PostThuley, on 02 November 2012 - 02:29 PM, said:

Yeah that's just crazy! ;)
Let's think about that in terms of opportunity cost.  Let's assume a minimum wage of $7.25 which means it "cost" you $5524.5 worth of pre-tax effort to get that thing.  The numbers are more dramatic if your wage is like $30 or some such.

O i still get paid during those hours lol.  I dont get paid hourly :)
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 02:50 PM

View PostCynical, on 02 November 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

O i still get paid during those hours lol.  I dont get paid hourly :)

That's the spirit! haha
The video makes it look so cool. They must have made some changes or something because I've read a lot about people complaining that mesmers don't get to see the awesome painterly effects, but I saw it a ton in that video!! Man....so cool.

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#17 Thuley

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 03:18 PM

About Cursed Shore farming, how do you deal with diminishing returns.  They do affect karma return as well, do they not?

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 03:44 PM

View PostThuley, on 02 November 2012 - 03:18 PM, said:

About Cursed Shore farming, how do you deal with diminishing returns.  They do affect karma return as well, do they not?

ducky said in another thread to just leave for an hour or so.

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#19 Cynical

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 04:48 PM

View PostHeylo, on 02 November 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:

ducky said in another thread to just leave for an hour or so.


Updated OP with Unbeatable's legendary guide.  Its good read  breaks down the Most Effective way to farm karma.  I used it to get a hang of how to rotate then adjusted from there.

When you first start going just follow the crowd to get a understanding of the core event which is plinx chain.  Then from there you can start to branch off when you get the times down. and go tag the camps and tar event.

Basically if you do without booster plinx, broodmother, tar, abom and like 1 camp and Contender thats 3.317 karma in about 30 ish minutes.

You have about 5 minutes before it starts all over again.  So its constant which is good.

If you hit DR you just skip 1 event!!  Thats all you have to do is sit out on 1 like abom since it takes a little while to kill him.  Or first part of contender since contender is 2 parts.  Then hope back in the chain again and you should be good.

Now if you are using a booster then you will hit dr cap faster but you can stay in dr a little longer before you need to drop out for a event.

If your Gold Medal says 378 your getting full amount.  When it drops to 350 your in dr then it might teeter there for a bit and then drop to 326 I think is next  level down.  Either way you still only need to stay out about 4-10 minutes and hop back in.  

Relogging doesnt work anymore I never got to use that trick but you could reset it before but they fixed.  You can switch on alts and farm also hit dr on 1 log on alt and farm more and repeat.


EDIT:  Ahh just looked at Ugly's post.  He is referring to money and drops Im referring to karma I think they work differently because you dont need a hour to get out of dr for karma.  
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#20 Thuley

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 05:15 PM

View PostCynical, on 02 November 2012 - 04:48 PM, said:

Basically if you do without booster plinx, broodmother, tar, abom and like 1 camp and Contender thats 3.317 karma in about 30 ish minutes.

So let's say you get 6k karma per hour without booster if you stay committed to doing it.  You need 1.2M karma, that's 200 hours just for the karma grind.  That's pretty hardcore.

Now if I look at it from an Engineer point of view The Predator gives me

The Predator
    Weapon Strength: 1001 - 1223
    +182 Power
    +130 Toughness
    +130 Vitality
    Rifle Legendary
    Damage Type: Physical

and I am just not sure whether those stats are actually worth the grind.

How does the Mesmer weapon compare if you disregard the legendary as status symbol and just look at its dps/stats value?




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