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[Reina Takayama]

It's sad to see another post of people leaving Ehmry but it has to be done, there are things that suffocates players on the server which should be a warm and friendly small community of good people

There's been a lot of false and half truth rumors, drama and verbal abuse against me, which, while I could hardly care for, I don't need to deal with extra issues from overly carebear self-righteous drama queens, gossip swallowing backstabbers and trolls. I once thought people in game wouldn't be so dramatic and hurtful about a bunch of pixels and was an escape for everyone but it's funny how people act. I don't owe anyone this but I'd like to say what kind of hostile environment has caused Ehmry to lose one of their born and raised, loyal, well known player with a long history who has contributed to the best ability to the server and people whenever possible. I'd also like to say that people know nothing about me, and only hear myths and come to their own conclusions. I'm not leaving til I've posted this and told the truth. I hate people having their own made up stories about me. I've done nothing wrong, and will not leave without stating that fact.

This might not be very responsible way of leaving for my guild, but they know some of this already, and it makes sense to be transparent.

Everyone knows I chill on the ledge, and chat with friends, that's what I do a lot now since I got back to game but bc of it people , people i dont even know or talk to, and some who I had considered a friend have swallowed the things they are told and labelled me with words like whore and slut and prostitute accusing me of charming men and doing nothing to receive what i have for free which is in no way acceptable.

1) I play and am productive in the daytime and mornings the most when it happens that most people are not online, and sit on the ledge on prime time bc my parents are back from work and threaten my privacy since they do not allow me to play games. Also bc a lot of friends are online at that time I will spend time talking to diff people and having a good time with guild chat. My usual routine would be to minimize my game window and stick it halfway off my desktop screen so only the chat box on the left side remains. Hardly anyone considers my situation and always comments on my being on the ledge. Not to mention, people play the game the way they want, why would you care? There's others who chill with me frequently as well.

2) the first 7 months of game since release was my most intense full time gaming experience. It is my first official mmo and I played non stop all day. I was productive as well and ran dungeons nonstop and many things, of course all the living story update content like Halloween Wintersday first karka attack event at the time. I earned all the tokens needed for various dungeon gear including my back piece , some dungeon armor and weapons I no longer use but are sitting in bank

3) Recently I got sunrise and people have been completely butthurt about it. I wouldn't have completed it without the help of my three close friends that I've known for a long time. I even gave them credit in game and in my screenshot thread on the forum. In fact all my gaming experience I had ever only had help from a total of four or five people. Someone from an old guild was the first time i ever received help and gave me gold to get a commander tag to run my very first server Orr zerg event. This time, is the most anyone ever helped. Whole guilds donate and contribute to a members legendary I can hardly see how getting help is an issue. If it is bc I'm a girl and I'm immediately a whore for getting free stuff then there is a huge issue of sexism here.

If you ask my friends you'll find that they offered the help and I never asked for anything. The three friends also insisted their help bc they were ALREADY done their legendary gs and other goals they had and were content and had extra things they didn't need. In fact one of them had worked towards sunrise earlier and told me he no longer wanted it and had something lying around. I offered to pay for it, if I could have time to farm the gold but it was insisted it's okay. However, I am still paying back two of these friends, over time. My personal conviction is to never accept help from anyone who
a) had their own goals (i.e. legendaries, whatever) to reach
b ) was not a close friend whom I've known for a long time
c) did not have an abundance of what they didn't need/want.
Is accepting help otherwise wrong?

If not the sunrise, in fact, I'm perfectly content just sitting on the ledge doing nothing at all as people think and would never need to get sunrise though everyone secretly wants one of course.  When  I got back to the game after a few months break, I decided to completely retire and do nothing at all. But in this case, I was told to get it! Do it! by friends and received help that was offered. It was crazy how much help I got but I don't think I did anything to deserve it except be a good friend, do my best to help make the game funny and amusing for my friends especially in guild chats, run events, offer a listening ear when necessary. And they might  say just for being good friends they wanted to help

However I had contributed my portion of it to the sunrise too. I had hundreds of gold farmed since the crown pavilion, I've done a lot of farming and champ farming during morning and day times mainly, and also completed a few commissions of quaggans for people for 6-8 g each and gathered enough to complete the legendary.

Not once did I think I did this all myself. I consider the sunrise, ours, amongst my three friends who were nice enough to push me to finish it, as a token of friendship. At the same time it was wise some friends urged me to keep it a secret that I had help cuz there would be gossip. However I didn't think about what others might think, being a simple minded person, and some "friends" I had apparently back stabbed me and continued hurtful and toxic rumors.

4) People even go as far as to claim I didn't run tequatl or earn my title at all. But if you've seen my pissed off rants on my forums or on guild chat you'd know I've been running it for the whole week. (I apologized to my guildies already, but sorry to everyone and my guild members for being too affected by it, it felt like it was telling me i was just an unlucky person in general, not just in game, so i took it too personal and snapped) I ran it for a total of 23 times, I've done it on ehmry, guested on main maps TC, BG, SoR, was in overflow for [Teq] fights and killed him only twice. Most of the time I happened to be unlucky and kept missing a successful run by a mere breadth. I would do five runs in the day time per day and one or two at night which is also why I was missing from "the ledge", and when I happen to need to leave is when they get a successful run in. Finally got a kill on SoR and was there for ehmry's record 3 minute left kill which I posted screenshots of.

5) Yes, there's a few times where a friend or two might share accounts and help each other run dailies, etc and recently people were all so extremely butthurt by someone helping me run SAB. Yes it is tough and its unfair if someone does it for me, if you people really care about how someone is helping someone. I'm not the only one however. It is a common thing that people help each other out especially for someone like me who can't do jumping puzzles. I always say I can only fight well but can't jump puzzle. I did one world and knew i couldnt do actually do this. However, I didn't go begging for someone to run it, someone offered to help.

6) I've tried my best to run server events like the traditional orrgy and I know I haven't done other things except for an occasional Quaggan Zerg and race. The race barely had anyone participating cuz of the time being non prime time perhaps but I was even offering gold and prizes that I personally earned. From the orrgy event I had people telling me I would make a good WvW commander since I use WvW style commanding st times. I would love to be but my parents do not permit me to play for long hours at prime time nor do I think I know enough or am competent to command independently on day times.

I tried to be a active forum member and contribute to as many threads as I can to keep up a lively atmosphere and offer some of my own creative endeavors. And yet people consider this attention seeking?

I tried to run a helpful fun guild community and they were great from what I knew, people were tight knit and friendly and had great jokes and laughs. And we aimed to put community first. Some members would leave me a msg to thank me for forming this guild bc they're having a great time and made some great friends. To this day, my new guild is having a great time and I appreciate each and every member for the unique personalities and great fun


7) Then there's people who claim I have no ability to actually play. I would have to laugh. Where were these people the first 7 months when I played intense and my parents got mad at me. people who make accusations haven't seen me play. So many people are making assumptions based on nothing, just that I chill on the ledge.

I don't feel like I need to play so much any more since I've achieved most of what I wanted. I needed to run Teq cus I wanted the title. Halfway thru my teq runs (I Zerg frontline most of the time except when I have faith in the run when I wanted to try my hand at all the title achievements) I began to never die or down in zergs. I could dodge all the waves and know all the mechanics no problem. And there's people telling me I can't play or don't try.

I've WvW'd though not as often anymore but  friends I ever run with which is only a rare few who can catch me in action will be surprised at how well I can play. Maybe surprising bc i seem to chill on the ledge hiding my ability. I enjoy roaming solo in the day times cuz there's smaller fights that are fun, I've done 1 vx, recently it was 1v2, 1v4, if you need to care about this at all.

Actually it was taking my Mesmer to WvW that inspired me to make a better balanced build rather than go zerk as most might do on various classes. In fact while running with zergs quite a few times or Zerg busting, i learned that I don't go down at all  and have a healthy tanky build even when outnumbered, and was always stacking on the commander super tight, until most of the group is wiped or well, we win.

Why do I even need to say all this is beyond me. Why do people even care how I play or what I do or how someone wants to help? Is my game life so important to you? LOL. Seriously. Why I'm saying all this is, I HATE Being thought of to be such a cheap bitch. What do you think I am?

I can be stuck up and I can be a bitch and lash out when you get on my bad side and that is the exact opposite of the cheap slut you think I am. Especially just bc I'm a girl people think I take advantage of this? People think I actually try to charm people to give me things?

I don't know whether I should be hurt or laughing. Because I once thought ehmry was a great community and people were all nice and that games were fun and people are easy going about pixels. But it's funny people think they are like the judge of others or self-righteous law enforcement officers or something.

This is unnecessary but is in response to the unnecessary "concern" of many and various accumulating numbers of players on the server who have nothing better to do it seems.

I would hate to leave without a word or letting such people think I've admitted to their accusations.

Having friends back stab me and wondering whos the next to comment on me chilling on my ledge at prime time or calling me out, isn't comfortable. I just have no time to waste on people who think they are right. I can enjoy my game elsewhere

Have fun with your drama
And for those who are not part of this, I apologize but everyone should be clear why I've left. It's a game of pixels, why do people care enough to go around trying to hurt someone? So what if I had some help? Everyone who has good friends will be offered help. Did I ask you to help?

I've had some great friends and met amazing people of course and I've enjoyed my time in ehmry and fully gave my heart to the server community. I've been in some great guilds and had hilarious laughs. Some of you are the best. But others, not so much.

PS: how many times did i say butthurt?

[QueenEtna]

NOOO REINA DONT GO I LOVES YOU SCREW EVERYONE WHO SAID BAD THINGS ABOUT U THEY ARE WORTHLESS! NOW STAY HERE IN EBAY WITH ME.

[Drunken Reindeer]

It takes a massive amount of courage to say something like this, and i highly commened you. It is extremely sad to see that you have indeed decided to leave. It annoys me that people in OUR community could be so vicious as to push someone to the point of switching servers. I cant really say anything that hasn't been said. But there are alot of people here on the Ebay community, that will continue to support you as friends and an ebay family member.

I simply cannot believe the amount of childish people in our community, that could be so cruel as to spread vicious rumors around the server.

I was actually just about make a Forum post, telling people to grow up and act like adults before i noticed this. I came to ebay, and was impressed with the community, on how, kind and welcoming they where, and im sad to see that my first impressions might have been wrong.

I really hope the people spreading this kind of shit, grow up and grow a pair of balls. Internet bullying, is for people who have nothing better to do, than spend their day making other people miserable, just so that they can have a little spice added to their miserable existance.

[Orochichan]

This is saddening but you're right you should go where you are most comfortable and where you can enjoy the game. Hope you find a server that is nice :c

[Evilzara]

Aww, this is sad. Ehmry lost one of their best community members. The sad thing is I don't think a lot of people will care but soon they will realize how boring Ehmry is without you.

I don't know you that well but I know enough to know that you're a fun person and you strive to make things fun. GW2 isn't about WvW, it's about what you enjoy doing, so people have no right to complain or laugh at you for sitting on the ledge a lot.

Anyways, I hope you find the right place for you and I hope you enjoy it a lot more than Ehmry.

cough BP cough

[UltraEM]

I find it saddening to see things like this happening to other people. I still believe Ehmry is a nice place to be in because I haven't had any problems with the Ehmry community at all, but that's easy for someone like me to say, a person who tends to lay low in most cases in-game, and interacts mostly with the already tightly-knit WvW community, which is, from my experience, one of the strongest points of the Ehmry community.

And people complaining about ledge camping? FFS, this is a Role Playing Game; if you can do it in-game, there's nothing wrong with it! You can play however you want! It's not difficult to understand. I can't believe people find problems with that.

I love Ehmry, but if the community slowly trickles away, it'll become a shell of its former self, with nothing that I used to love about it in there anymore, and I'll have to spend a fuckton of gems to find a new GW2 family, likely in SoR or BG where the Filipinos are, and I don't want that! I want to stay on Ehmry, but on the Ehmry I grew to love!

I wish you the best of luck, wherever you may go. You'll miss my birthday party if you go before tomorrow, though.

[Reina Takayama]

UltraEM, on 26 September 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

I find it saddening to see things like this happening to other people. I still believe Ehmry is a nice place to be in because I haven't had any problems with the Ehmry community at all, but that's easy for someone like me to say, a person who tends to lay low in most cases in-game, and interacts mostly with the already tightly-knit WvW community, which is, from my experience, one of the strongest points of the Ehmry community.

And people complaining about ledge camping? FFS, this is a Role Playing Game; if you can do it in-game, there's nothing wrong with it! You can play however you want! It's not difficult to understand.

I love Ehmry, but if the community slowly trickles away, it'll become a shell of its former self, with nothing that I used to love about it in there anymore, and I'll have to spend a fuckton of gems to find a new GW2 family, likely in SoR or BG where the Filipinos are, and I don't want that! I want to stay on Ehmry, but on the Ehmry I grew to love!

I wish you the best of luck, wherever you may go. You'll miss my birthday party if you go before tomorrow, though.

I'll be there if you tell me when and where

[J053pH]

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[Thuley]

Sorry to see you go Reina, at the same time I am not convinced that all the things you listed wouldn't have happened on another server, and won't happen on another server to you in the future.

The nature of today's Internet is vile.  People enjoy being mean because there's no consequence for actively hurting someone online.  There is nothing one can do to change that.  The only thing any one person has full control over is one's attitude and response to the ugliness of the Internet.  So for practical purposes your one and only option in dealing with all the listed issues is to simply not care what others say and not let it get to you.

I hope you think on that and decide to stay, but if you are absolutely set on leaving then I do wish you the best of luck wherever you go.  You are a true asset to our community, and any other server will be lucky to have you to run events for their players.

[UltraEM]

Reina Takayama, on 26 September 2013 - 10:18 AM, said:

I'll be there if you tell me when and where

I'm actually too poor to think of any way to celebrate in game that I'm content with blowing up zergs and taking enemy keeps :'( Was just a last ditch effort.

But like Thuley said, you may find yourself with a similar situation on another server; every community has its bandits, and Ehmry Bay is sadly no exception.

Still though, I hope you take care and still be a great community member to whichever new GW2 family you join, just like you were on EBay!

[Evilzara]

Thuley, on 26 September 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

Sorry to see you go Reina, at the same time I am not convinced that all the things you listed wouldn't have happened on another server, and won't happen on another server to you in the future.

I'm from BP and I can confirm the things she listed won't happen here and has never happened here before (that I'm aware of).

Not every server is like Ehmry.

[Necros Stalker]

I wasn't going to post but I feel I must. The fact that Trolls and gossipers have been allowed to drive out such a beloved member of the Ebay community over something as petty as a legendary, Account sharing or AFKing is disgusting. You Trolls want a legendary go earn it, help a friend make theres (Like I am) or shut up. Going away for the weekend but don't want to miss out on luarals, Ask someone to help instead of complaining when someone else does so and we all AFK at somepoint. This behaviour is childish pure and simple

The fact that most of us on here are adults and out of highschool makes this even worse. Yes that's right Gossip and troll griefing are behaviours I would expect from childish High-schoolers not adults earning a living and looking for an escape from real life problems. Griefing and gossiping hurt people, they divide communities and in this day an age were many people are wrapped in cotton wool can quite literally break someone if it gets to far out of hand. It really can and unless I your at war such things should not occur. Grow up people seriously before more highly respected members of the community up and leave.

Anyway I've ranted, the Server will miss you Reina. Take care reina and I wish you all the best wherever you choose to go. Regardless of what some may think you are always welcome to hang out with me and my friends in hinterlands or dungeons if you wish to visit Ebay again.

[Thuley]

Evilzara, on 26 September 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

I'm from BP and I can confirm the things she listed won't happen here and has never happened here before (that I'm aware of).

Not every server is like Ehmry.

Please, give me an account on any one server, let me spend a day talking to people, and I will find dozens of cases where especially females are treated just like Reina described.  The key phrase in your post is "that I'm aware of", because most choose to just fade away rather than make those issues public.

Reina is a very public figure on Ehmry and as such it's easy for jaded individuals to focus on her as opposed to giving someone else shit over stuff.

The thing is that instead of enjoying their own game people worry too much about what other people do in game.

There was what's his name in that one guild where the one guy was so filthy rich that he was essentially giving away Legendaries.  I know for a fact that one member of the guild got like 800g worth of mats to complete his Legendary and no one had any issues with that because the recipient of the 800g gift was male (this was at a time when 50g was more than most people had ever seen, like in ~December 2012).  It was just assumed that the gift was because that person did a lot for the guild and put himself above others all the time.  No one thought that the recipient gave out sexual favors to receive such an enormous gift.

Reina has spend a lot of her time to improve the gaming experience for others, in game and out of game here on the board.  If I were still active in GW2 I would have gladly helped her in her Legendary quest not because she's female but because you can see her contribution to the community in almost every section of ehmry.com, it would have been a small way for me to show my appreciation for the time and effort she put in to grow this site.

People totally underestimate how much time it takes to run events for others, or provide interesting content on here or some such.  They are all like "nah, that stuff is ez" yet none of them do it and then they hate on those who do when those who do receive some small recognition.

[Rill Soji]

Oh Rei!   I'm sorry you've been having such a hard time lately. I couldn't put it any better than than Thuley has though. So I'll just say I second it.  I hope you do reconsider. Hang in there, let the hate slide off and know there's plenty of folks here who aren't vocal but who do support you.

[hugothegrand]

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[Aeon]

I'll miss you Reina.  D:  We weren't really that close but I had good times running with you and talking to you.
Personally, I think that you truly fulfilled what Anet had truly envisioned to be, a global community. You have done every aspect of the game possible and you have truly lived out what they said in the beginning.
"It's about working together."
I wish you luck in whatever server you plan on going to. Hope you'll remember Ebay not as the place where all the rumormongers and whiners who complain about not having a legendary are, but as the place where you made many good memories and friends.
Thank you for making many great memories with us.

[J053pH]

hugothegrand, on 26 September 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

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^^^ prime example -.-

[cyranal]

I do not envy the things girl gamers have to go through in online games. You really have to do what is best for your own health though and if that means leaving, then I wish you the best. I suppose it's much easier for a guy to shrug off trolls but no one is calling us man-sluts when we get help from friends and guildies. But I couldn't even do that until I was much older and more mature. Things really do hurt a lot more when you're younger but I digress.

I had just read this article recently as well which relates to this topic. A guy logged into his wife's account to help her character get some achievements and encountered what it was like to play online games as a "female":

http://flygirlgamers...game-on-ladies/

A short snippet from that link:

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The point is that there shouldn’t BE a time when a female gamer has to be subjected to that kind of vitrol and smack talking for no other reason than she logged on…and she has a vagina. It should never be that the answer to getting bested by a female gamer is to tell her to get back into the kitchen or worst yet: get raped.  Female gamers just like any other gamer should be able to enjoy the experience of gaming without feeling uncomfortable. Without being subjected to misogynistic  taunts for no other reason than she logs on! Now I know what many of you apologists are going to say to that:” man that’s just how gaming is, we trash talk, it’s not personal.”

[hugothegrand]

J053pH, on 26 September 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:

^^^ prime example -.-

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[hugothegrand]

I've been Thuley'd! But honestly, the first gif was my first god honest reaction to the thread, The second one was purely a... "Troll" gif. And why the hell is this turning into the hardships of a Girl Gamer? Man these threads go crazy off the rails.