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[Thuley]

Toegra, on 19 December 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

If someone is only asking for the input from other members of the server then why should that be censored?

We are 6 pages into this thread and you still don't get why making a public thread about asking why some don't have the highest opinion about PK is with absolute certainty going to result in drama?  According to you there were people who told you in-game that they don't have the highest opinion of you for having joined PK.  Why not simply ask those people why they formed that opinion, that way you get it from the source.

Creating a public spectacle serves no purpose other than further inflame the situation and further polarize the forum population, as this thread has undoubtedly done.

To put it in simpler words; nothing good can come from asking the general population as to why they do not like your guild.

[Siiddhartha]

OK, but let's not rule out that it STILL may be Thuley's fault somehow....

[Siiddhartha]

Just gonna sit back and wait for the "Likes" on that one ^^

[Heylo]

Toegra, on 19 December 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

It's not broken, it's damaged.
Look at our ratings of WvW to see that.

I'm not wanting a confrontation about it, thanks for the input.

Oooooooooooh WvW. Yeah, I don't go there.

Siiddhartha, on 19 December 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

Just gonna sit back and wait for the "Likes" on that one ^^

None from me. I'm out of likes today

[Menorah]

Siiddhartha, on 19 December 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

Just gonna sit back and wait for the "Likes" on that one ^^

Weird, I didn't get that option.

[Siiddhartha]

So post some kittens for me...

[Siiddhartha]

Menorah, on 19 December 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

Weird, I didn't get that option.

That looks PhotoShopped

[Menorah]

Siiddhartha, on 19 December 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

That looks PhotoShopped

It's as legit than my super secret handshake that only people who aren't terrorists know

[The Ugly Ducky]

[Techni Color]

Menorah, on 19 December 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

It's as legit than my super secret handshake that only people who aren't terrorists know

What are you implying Menorah? I don't know this secret handshake, this is bull Carp.

[Heylo]

Here you go :3 Best request ever.

[The Ugly Ducky]

[The Ugly Ducky]

Heylo, on 19 December 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

Here you go :3 Best request ever.

[Chappy]

Toegra, on 19 December 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

You're acting as if I started this thread attacking Thuley.

People are acting that way because that is exactly what you did.

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this thread was created to fix issues and bond.

That may have been your intention, but it is far from the result, reflect on that for a bit.

You will never achieve a resolution with anybody by attacking them, it is that simple.

It doesn't take a genius to see that your guild has a bad reputation (hell i can see it just from this thread).
If you don't like the treatment you get for being in your guild you have 3 options.
1 - leave the guild
2 - fix your reputation
3 - move your guild to another server and start fresh

Ideally you would want to focus on number 2 before you consider 1 or 3. And the first step to curing a problem is to admit that you have one.
People do not form their opinion of others without a reason. Nobody wakes up in the morning and decides "i am going to destroy that person's gaming experience for absolutely NO REASON!"
It is up to the leaders of your guild to find out what it is that has caused them to get such a bad rep and start working to turn that reputation around.
Throwing your weight around an online community like a pack of thugs, attacking anybody who dares to diss you is not going to help your situation.

[Player Character]

So the title of this thread suggests Thuley handed out the authority to moderate these forums to the people, that everybody will get to vote on everything. Then you call him an authoritarian dictator...

[Toegra]

Chappy & the ugly duckling. I did pm him first. Secondly if you think it's whining that is fine. I cant control your perception of things.
I posted what I felt as you are doing now.

[Toegra]

The point is about thuley encouraging the bad rep of pk insteaf of staying out of it or taking a mutual standpoint.
One side can't attempt to fix a problem while other sides invest in the problem

[Siiddhartha]

Chappy, on 19 December 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

It doesn't take a genius to see that your guild has a bad reputation (hell i can see it just from this thread).
If you don't like the treatment you get for being in your guild you have 3 options.
1 - leave the guild
2 - fix your reputation
3 - move your guild to another server and start fresh

Do we all get a vote?

[Cynical]

I don't have a problem with PK never had any bad incidents with them I am not going to dislike PK because other people dislike PK.  Just think for yourself like thuley said no mob mentality.  

I had a thread closed my thread was about Elementalists D/D build it was closed because Liric disliked that Noice didn't share his build and then Icer came in to troll Liric and basically about 5 people arguing with each other.  Not 1 of those things but a combination of all of them.  

I PM'd thuley about why he closed the thread I made it as a thread so people could learn more about the build maybe they wanted to make a ele.  It would have also served as a place for people to learn to counter it instead of QQ nerf ele's.  

Thuley said I could make another thread about the Elementalists D/D build and that the other one had just been derailed.  I honestly was a bit agitated that it was closed, because people had to express their opinions about someones actions in a thread but not contribute.  Honestly some people act like they are a mod but end up derailing the topic it is better as a whole to just ignore the post you don't like in a thread you probably would have never posted in.

[Chappy]

Toegra, on 19 December 2012 - 06:44 PM, said:

Chappy & the ugly duckling. I did pm him first.

That is only one third of my advice, i then went on to explain how you interact with people who you want something from and last i pointed out that Thuley is under no obligation to obey your demands.

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Secondly if you think it's whining that is fine. I cant control your perception of things.
I posted what I felt as you are doing now.

You may not be able to control how individuals view certain things, but you can manage how others view you and your guild.
Your comment above hints that you do not care what others think of you, but your actions in this forum say the complete opposite. For people who seemingly care so little about their reputation, you spend a frightful amount of time lashing out at those who do it harm.

The typical "whatever 'dawg', i jus don giv a fuck" approach is a hopelessly transparent attempt to hide ones insecurities. It only worked for Eminem because his audience was a bunch of juveniles.