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[Toegra]

Techni. I admit I do get out of line. Calling him a nazi wasn't the best choice of words.
I am just unable to see the point in closing threads based on it being a possible trolling target.
For me when someone attempts to block what I have to say it hits me the wrong way.
Because I live in America, and I fought for the rights to say what we please, so when someone doesn't allow that... It ticks me off.

My whole goal was to find out what the problem was with PK and the others, I wanted everything aired out so we can mend the problem to be a successful server.

I've been on Ehmry Bay since the 3 day head start and I won't ever leave.
I plan on staying with pk and not so that i'm a target, but because pk does have a lot of potential and I believe that will some work Ehmry can be the best server on WvW.

[Apticus]

I'll save you a lot of heartache and time:
People don't like PK simply because of the immature attitude of Hellsing and xSilent and their frankly ridiculous posts on this forum.

Posts like this:

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You always talk shit on map chat and act as if you don't. I'm gonna go right out and say this, but you're an ant. You don't matter at all. You've had a beacon for a long time now and you STILL can't do good. You're so insignificant it's funny.

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Fuck you Thuley, and you're little troll buddies here in this forum; and since you aren't SHIT in game except some random scrub without a guild, I don't give a fuck about you.

are quite simply pathetic, and that's me being generous.  Dude is quite simply the biggest loser I've ever met on the internet and there are quite a few fuckin' weirdos online.

[Toegra]

Apticus, on 19 December 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

I'll save you a lot of heartache and time:
People don't like PK simply because of the immature attitude of Hellsing and xSilent and their frankly ridiculous posts on this forum.

Posts like this:


are quite simply pathetic, and that's me being generous.  Dude is quite simply the biggest loser I've ever met on the internet and there are quite a few fuckin' weirdos online.

The main thing is that we fix what issues there are.
Sometimes getting loud helps, sometimes it doesn't.
But I do think if people stopped targeting PK has an enemy and started thinking of PK as a potential ally.
Then a lot of the shit talking will stop.
When everyone is attacking one guild, then guild mates must stand up for each other. Who else will?

[Apticus]

The best thing honestly would be to go away.  Not you specifically but your other guild mates should probably never post a thread again as each one is destined to go down in flames.


Oh, the humanity....

[Toegra]

How does a server grow if it pushes away people that are different than the core population?
It doesn't.
As with most societies, an attempt to integrate them and give a common goal would be the best course of action.
Everyone can get out of line, some are more hot blooded than others.
The main point is to fix problems as they occur, and not avoid the problem.
When we can't talk about something without arguing and the thread gets shut down then we're avoiding the problem.
Honestly, PK wants to be a part of the server.
We may need some people to help guide us to being better server mates, but un-needed flaming should be keep minimal.
We all have a common enemy, so it's in everyone's interest to build a strong relationship with players on Ehmry.

[Alethea Snow]

Menorah, on 19 December 2012 - 04:05 PM, said:

Whatever, I thought it first

PSH no you didn't.

[Techni Color]

since it seems we're open to criticism. These same members can work on their interpersonal skills and touch it with a bit of class. The "u mad brah" attitude can be benched or used elsewhere, and try laying low for a bit til things do die down and our trolls have found a new target, hopefully other server invaders posting on our forums. As hellsing said somewhere else "an enemy of my enemy is my friend".

[Siiddhartha]

This topic is now about Techni.

Fuck you Techni, you fucking Fascist Libertarian

[Toegra]

Techni Color, on 19 December 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

since it seems we're open to criticism. These same members can work on their interpersonal skills and touch it with a bit of class. The "u mad brah" attitude can be benched or used elsewhere, and try laying low for a bit til things do die down and our trolls have found a new target, hopefully other server invaders posting on our forums. As hellsing said somewhere else "an enemy of my enemy is my friend".

I survived being shot at by Insurgents, I can survive some trolls throwing words at their computer.
I'm not worried about people attacking my posts, we are all entitled to our own opinions.
My question is what do we need to do to fix our server, and how?

[Techni Color]

Siiddhartha, on 19 December 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

This topic is now about Techni.

Fuck you Techni, you fucking Fascist Libertarian

I feel the love as i drain the fun away from siid.

[Siiddhartha]

Toegra, on 19 December 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

I survived being shot at by Insurgents, I can survive some trolls throwing words at their computer.
I'm not worried about people attacking my posts, we are all entitled to our own opinions.
My question is what do we need to do to fix our server, and how?

Use Unacam as an example instead of those other two.

[Thuley]

Toegra, on 19 December 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:

Because I live in America, and I fought for the rights to say what we please, so when someone doesn't allow that... It ticks me off.

I feel that a civics lesson is in order.  The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the right to freedom of religion and freedom of expression from government interference.

It's actually a very common misconception that the First Amendment allows anyone to run their mouths, or keys, anywhere, but that is simply not the case.

In life, as well as on this forum, you are subject to what amounts to censorship.  Someone else is deciding for you what you can and cannot say where and how you can say it.  On ehmry.com we have the Ehmry Community Standards and then there is my interpretation of those standards.

When I need to make a decision on something I strive to assess the impact on the greater good as I see it.  It's possible that my opinion of what the greater good looks like is different from the opinion of members.  I created this resource to add value to the players of this server and I do my best to have the decisions I make reflect that.

Your choice is to accept that or leave.

Incidentally this type of thread is why there aren't moderators on here because if there were then those volunteers would be subject to the name calling, accusations, etc. etc., and I simply won't have that.

[Heylo]

Toegra, on 19 December 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

My question is what do we need to do to fix our server, and how?

I wasn't aware it was broken.

[Toegra]

Siiddhartha, on 19 December 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Use Unacam as an example instead of those other two.

I'm not speakly solely about pk. I'm talking about the feud between punk and pk, and the way we act towards all each other.

[Siiddhartha]

Toegra, on 19 December 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

I'm not speakly solely about pk. I'm talking about the feud between punk and pk, and the way we act towards all each other.

So was I

[Alethea Snow]

Siiddhartha, go sit under the bodhi tree and meditate and tell us your wise words.

[Toegra]

Thuley, on 19 December 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

I feel that a civics lesson is in order.  The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the right to freedom of religion and freedom of expression from government interference.

It's actually a very common misconception that the First Amendment allows anyone to run their mouths, or keys, anywhere, but that is simply not the case.

In life, as well as on this forum, you are subject to what amounts to censorship.  Someone else is deciding for you what you can and cannot say where and how you can say it.  On ehmry.com we have the Ehmry Community Standards and then there is my interpretation of those standards.

When I need to make a decision on something I strive to assess the impact on the greater good as I see it.  It's possible that my opinion of what the greater good looks like is different from the opinion of members.  I created this resource to add value to the players of this server and I do my best to have the decisions I make reflect that.

Your choice is to accept that or leave.

Incidentally this type of thread is why there aren't moderators on here because if there were then those volunteers would be subject to the name calling, accusations, etc. etc., and I simply won't have that.

I understand censorship is mandated by many, mostly news stations. Which may I add use it for their own personal goals.
If someone is only asking for the input from other members of the server then why should that be censored?

[Toegra]

Heylo, on 19 December 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

I wasn't aware it was broken.

It's not broken, it's damaged.
Look at our ratings of WvW to see that.

I'm not wanting a confrontation about it, thanks for the input.

[Chappy]

Toegra, on 19 December 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

Sometimes getting loud helps, sometimes it doesn't.

There is getting loud and there is being a total douchebag, you did the latter.

Before you go criticising Thuley how about you spare a thought for the work he has done for us, and what it takes to run a forum full of such diverse personalities.
Thuley is not a judge, he does not have years of experience to help him make the right decision every time, he is a human being. Give him some slack for fuck sake.

If you don't like the decision made by an admin, you will get nowhere by insulting them, that goes for any forum. You just come off as a whiney little child who can't play nice with the other kids.
Next time Thuley does something you don't like, try sending him a PM and work it out between the two of you. Also accept the fact that this is HIS forum thet HE built and it is HIS job to run it how HE thinks it should be run.
At the end of the day Thuley doesn't have to keep you happy, his objective is to keep the forum pleasant and habitable for the majority of it's members. If you don't like it, go find a better forum, or better still make your own! You might see how hard it is to keep it going then.

Spare a thought for how much time Thuley has dedicated to creating and running this forum, as well as striving to make our experience in GW2 better. Also consider the possibility that your guild's reputation stems from the attitude that it has displayed in this thread.

[The Ugly Ducky]

Chappy, on 19 December 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

There is getting loud and there is being a total douchebag, you did the latter.

Before you go criticising Thuley how about you spare a thought for the work he has done for us, and what it takes to run a forum full of such diverse personalities.
Thuley is not a judge, he does not have years of experience to help him make the right decision every time, he is a human being. Give him some slack for fuck sake.

If you don't like the decision made by an admin, you will get nowhere by insulting them, that goes for any forum. You just come off as a whiney little child who can't play nice with the other kids.
Next time Thuley does something you don't like, try sending him a PM and work it out between the two of you. Also accept the fact that this is HIS forum thet HE built and it is HIS job to run it how HE thinks it should be run.
At the end of the day Thuley doesn't have to keep you happy, his objective is to keep the forum pleasant and habitable for the majority of it's members. If you don't like it, go find a better forum, or better still make your own! You might see how hard it is to keep it going then.

Spare a thought for how much time Thuley has dedicated to creating and running this forum, as well as striving to make our experience in GW2 better. Also consider the possibility that your guild's reputation stems from the attitude that it has displayed in this thread.

This, basically.

You're basically coming off as a whining ungrateful piece of shit.