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[Fritanga]

definitely agree... also, the new currency wallet will hold all dungeon tokens and WvW badges... in infinite stacks instead of stacks of 250. It is also separate from inventory.

The big thing that has been hinted at by a few devs is to keep watching the skies during the new event on the 5th

[Noctis]

what? The sharks will rain from the sky?

[Reina Takayama]

Plz dragon sweeps down and eats queen Jennah and i am crowned Queen Reina, I mean .... *cough*

[Noctis]

Ok I looked at the sceens one more time and it seems the arena goes really deep. These two screenshots sort of show what I mean. I think there will be a whole small zone underneath DR with so interesting stuff.


If thats the case I take away all I said about being disappointed. It would be totally awesome. The Pavilion as an entrance to underground cave with some interesting stuff going on. That's really cool.

https://d3b4yo2b5lbf...j-screen-01.jpg
https://d3b4yo2b5lbf...j-screen-02.jpg
https://d3b4yo2b5lbf...j-screen-06.jpg

That last one especially. I'm sure I haven't seen anything like that anywhere in the game and there's no other place in DR other than underground to put it.

[Reina Takayama]

I don't take back what you said. HAHA.

As cool as it is, it would be gimmicky and a flashy cover up, if they don't actually address the lore... what the NPCs meant by noises before the collapse, the conflict between what the guards say and the citizens say... There ought to be something dragon or catacombs related.. D:

[Dætha]

Noctis, on 30 July 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

But. I have to say if they just cover the great collapse and just finish that part of the story with all of its mystery it would be a waste. I really wanted them to use such a great set up piece to do something with it. A dungeon, a gateway to the underground map, a Halloween/Karka-like invasion scenario - just something. If they are just letting it go I will be a bit disappointed.

They could make an extremely stealthy underground boss under the arena that burrows in through the floor, making us all fall hundreds of feet into a puddle of water into his domain for us to slay.

. . . Sounds vaguely familiar. . .Trial of the Crusader Reference perhaps?

[Fritanga]

That last pic has almost a flame-legion quality to it. It also has small platforms so maybe jumping puzzle??????

[UltraEM]

Those are ogres standing on the walkway/bridge on the last pic.

[Reina Takayama]

if you guys haven't seen this yet, you definitely should.

This is about the Thaumanova reactor and how it is huge and significant in game lore. I've been interested in voting for Kiel, bc I also thought there was something big related to this, being a CoE style lab

https://www.youtube....h?v=oiMFEqz3GQ4

Also he's doing a video for Scarlet's Lore soon, so I'm interested in what he has to say about it

[Fritanga]

I actually saw that video when he posted it. Wooden Potatoes is great! I am greatly looking forward to the Thaumanova Reactor lore and really hope that it is something you can enter in Fractals as a dungeon in and of itsself rather than just being another in the rotation.

About all this Scarlet stuff, I originally fell for what I am now dubbing the "Zephyr-trap" where they release all this great info about the crystal desert, but we really aren't heading in that direction in an expansion sort of way. I have a very strong feeling that we are going to see pretty soon a map expansion west of the Brisban Wildlands. I think that it would be very appropriate to have her base located somewhere that there is inquest around and large groups of bandits who can easily become pirates. There is already a large inquest presence out there, there are many bandits, and they have a fort we can't get into. Sounds a lot like a great place to hide your fortress.

[Noctis]

So here is one of the recently released screenshots. Why is there a cat golem in the background? They are taking over!

https://d3b4yo2b5lbf...Soros-Razor.jpg

[Fritanga]

that is a cat golem in the fractals lobby! shenanagins!

[Fritanga]

So lately I have been thinking about these Dragons. I really got towards thinking about it with the Shortcut Eagle in the Super Adventure Box. I kept thinking that it was just a really cool aesthetic fight that would have been amazing for a dragon battle. Tonight I was clearing Snowden Drifts and started talking to NPC's around the old Owl Lodge. I got to thinking about the possibilities of future Dragon campaigns.

Jormag- We know he has forced the Norn south. To protect the Norn as they traveled south in escape, Ox, Owl, Wolverine, and Eagle remained to fight back Jormag. Apparently Ox and Wolverine were seen killed by many but the last Owl Havroun tells us that Owl has died as well fighting Jormag. We don't know anything about Eagle.

Clearly the Jormag fight will be very Norn-centric, but I would love for us to travel into the mists with the Havroun spirit-walking abilities. I could easily see a final fight where we are investigating the spirit of Eagle and end up traveling into the Mists. We find the Havroun there locked in ice, where Jormag's power is starting to affect the mists themselves. We free him and he summons a giant Eagle which we ride through a full-on assault by the PACT with many airships giving their all. When we finally get near Jormag, we jump onto a nearby PACT airship and Eagle in a last bit of sacrifice claws jormag while a volley of shots from a massive air-fleet and ground offensive puts him down.

yeah. that would be cool.

Bubbles- We don't know anything about this guy, but I have a really crazy idea about him. For those who don't know, Bubbles is the unofficial name given to the Deep Sea Dragon. I have a theory that Kuunavang is a lieutenant of the deep sea dragon in the same way that Glint was a lieutenant of Kralkatorrik. During the Factions storyline, we free this dragon who was trapped by Shiro Tagachi's Death in the Harvest Temple. What if Shiro's death yell, which turned the sea to jade (entrapping Kuunavang) actually cleansed the dragon of the deep sea dragon's corruption (and replaced it with Shiro's corruption, which is really Abaddon's corruption, which we cleanse). Aesthetically, Kuunavang is a more serpent-like dragon... the same type that is generally associated with the sea. Could it then be that the events of GW1 with the flameseeker prophecies is really Abaddon trying to contain the elder dragons? Could Shiro's death yell which turned the sea to Jade and petrified the forest have been a tool to contain one of the elder dragons from escaping? Two races have experience in this since Cantha is still isolated and not talking: The Tengu and the Largos.

Players would then get to make Tengu characters or Largos Characters (or retain their existing characters) and move through the story of the Tengu on Cantha and unlock their secrets and their relationship with Kuunavang and possibly the dragons themselves. The whole thing would begin with the Largos openly attacking the Tengu. It turns out that the deep sea dragon has been summoning horrible creatures to attack the Largos and they find out that the Tengu know about it (and could possibly be giving refuge to Kuunavang?). The players work through a story where we ultimately unify the two races and summon the PACT in a campaign starting in either the Tengu city in Tyria or an underwater dome city home of the Largos, and then eventually cross into Cantha for an ultimate showdown with the deep sea dragon in their new home: the once frozen jade sea.

[Fritanga]

its now 4am and I am tired. I may write more tomorrow.

[Noctis]

Is it just me or player stories, interpretations and speculation are way better than what Anet has done so far? Like what you just wrote or WoodenPatatoes speculation about the other reality and Battle of DR is leagues better than pitiful scraps of stories we got with Living World thing.

Don't get me wrong I love Scarlet as a character and Rox and Braham started to grow on me, but the actual story... Idk, I'm starting to loose faith that Anet can deliver in that regard without an expansion and even then..

[Fritanga]

I think that is the overall fault of the Living Story. While its fantastic to be getting content every two weeks, and while it is for the most part amazing content, I feel that it has become somewhat limited. Taking Flame and Frost as an example: They had a pretty compelling story that was stretched out very long and people began to lose interest. They most certainly have learned their lesson  with regard to that, but there is still a bit of storytelling that isn't quite happening. It feels that while our player character is participating in all this hub-bub going on, the real story is still Scarlet and the world rather than just us as player characters. While we all go through individualized cutscenes, we know that everyone around us has done the same thing. It takes that personal level out of the storytelling.

I think that expanding the personal story is now very greatly needed. Players need to start getting personal choice back and have options for their own story now. Sure, its fun to do all this stuff in the world, but we are moving at the world's pace. That is the beauty of the personal story. Players can do what they want to get through it, be it crafting, mapping, WvW, etc. The key is, when the story is taking place, its the pace of the players for how fast they see the content and how much they get.

When I play a new character, I tend to go and clear a zone or two and then craft before logging off. This means that when I play, I knock out 4-6 personal story missions in one sitting. I find that I can appreciate the story better that way since the missions tend to be in 3-episode chunks.What excites me a little is how the last Scarlet episodes seemed to have that same style to it. We had the Speech and it being disrupted, the invasions began, and then a bit of content where Scarlet is defeated. The only thing truly missing from the equation now is giving the player choice and different paths and options. Those are the things that make PvE on Alternate Characters compelling.

[Esme Q]

Dwayna boned Malchor and they had a baby named Grenth whom they put in charge of the underworld cuz Dhumm was a  debbie downer.

then Malchor jumped in to the ocean.


Theres some Lore for you.

[Reina Takayama]

What you would like to see is Epic fritanga lol I'd also say tie in the Karka which seemed to have been pushed out of the sea all of a sudden as related to the sea dragon's awakening. Cantha and jade sea part makes a lot of sense, geographic location also works.

But with scarlet lore I'd say we would be moving towards the discovery of the jungle dragon if we follow this line. If they open up more maguuma jungle maps which would actually be close to bloodstone fen

Here's one thing I've been pondering though. The dragons might largely be tied to bloodstones and their location. If they are then this unifies gw1 and gw2 lore. Bloodstones seal away magic to preserve it from dragons, we hear about bloodstones in Arah, the power portalling into the mists and we have the white mantle and thaumanova scarlet steam creature portals and various hints all over the place.

The jungle dragon would probably be drawn and it's awakening might have to do with bloodstone fen. There is also bloodstone caverns in shiver peaks where one of the bloodstones crashed through the mountains. This might have to do with jormag. The bloodstone was originally made by the human gods in Orr where zhaitan was located. Some suggest there is a bloodstone that flew into the water/sea which is keeping the sea dragon busy whom like all dragons devour and consume magic and magical substance. Is there a bloodstone in crystal desert? And underground with primordus? I'd like to think mount maelstrom is closest to primordus current location cus of all the destroyers and meta event

Does bloodstones tie in with the dragons now? I believe they are closely tied

Personally I'd like to see crystal desert a lot haha

[Arriana Oakheart]

Regarding Sylvari. The Pale Tree was created using seeds found in a cave in the Maguuma Jungle by the human "Ronan" the cave that he found the seeds in was guarded by The Druids of the Maguuma. The Druids were humans that left their mortal forms to become the servants of Melandru. Therefore Sylvari are most likely the creation of Melandru and her attempt at creating a race just like how Dwayna brought the humans to Tyria.

[Arriana Oakheart]

Esme Q, on 08 September 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

Dwayna boned Malchor and they had a baby named Grenth whom they put in charge of the underworld cuz Dhumm was a  debbie downer.

then Malchor jumped in to the ocean.


Theres some Lore for you.

The rich boning the poor. Love you Esme!